Amendment and Motion, by leave, withdrawn ;-Debate further adjourned till Tuesday next at 12 o'clock.

METROPOLITAN BURIALS.

for resuming the debate on Wednesday next. It was very clear now, that the whole matter as regarded the choice of the day rested with the hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Newdegate); and he thought the very earliest possible day ought to be LORD JOHN MANNERS moved for named. If the hon. Gentleman did not leave to bring in a Bill to amend the laws accept now the offer-for it was an offer concerning the Burial of the Dead in the -made by the right hon. Gentleman the Metropolis. At that late hour of the night Secretary of State for the Home Depart- he would not enter into any details of the ment, it would be said that there were two measure, but would merely say that it great questions upon which hon. Gentle- would provide, first, for the closing of the men opposite proposed to make their ap- burial grounds within the metropolis, and peals at the hustings-one the question of secondly, for forming burial grounds beProtection, and the other that of the May-yond the metropolitan boundaries for the nooth grant. The one they had thrown reception of the dead. At a future stage over; the other they evidently desired to postpone. As far as they (the Opposition) could prevent that postponement they would do so, encouraged as they were by the right hon. Gentleman (Mr. Walpole). The Chancellor of the Exchequer said the other day in that House that he had no intention to withdraw the grant to Maynooth; but the walls of Liverpool were placarded with the declaration of one of the Members of the present Government that he was prepared to vote for the withdrawal of the grant to Maynooth.

SIR JOHN TYRELL said, he did not shrink from the opinion he had expressed privately to his hon. Friend (Mr. Newdegate) that it was most important an early day should be fixed for resuming the debate. As this view also met with the concurrence of the Government, he hoped his hon. Friend would propose to resume the debate on Tuesday next, at 12 o'clock. He would only say, in conclusion, to hon. Members opsosite (the Irish Roman Catholic Members), that if it had not been for the unfortunate Papal aggression he believed hon. Gentlemen would not have heard of this Motion.

MR. GOOLD thought the Motion of the hon. Member for North Warwickshire not so unfortunate as his speech. He believed that the proposed inquiry into the system of education at Maynooth would raise a bad feeling and ill will in Ireland, and the question ought therefore to be decided at

once.

MR. FORBES moved that the adjourned debate upon the grant to Maynooth be resumed on Tuesday next, at 12 o'clock.

MR. CHISHOLM ANSTEY consented to withdraw his Amendment.

MR. NEWDEGATE expressed his concurrence in the adjournment of the debate to Tuesday next, at 12 o'clock.

he would enter more fully into the details.

MR. WAKLEY said, that as far as he could understand the Bill from the few words of explanation the noble Lord had given, the present measure appeared to be the same as the one which had been so unsatisfactory in its results. He hoped full information would be given as to the nature and provisions of the Bill before any stage in it were taken.

MR. STANFORD trusted that the Bill would be laid on the table at a time when a full explanation of the objects and details could be given and discussed.

VISCOUNT EBRINGTON said, it was not to be denied that the evils of the present system of intramural interments were notorious, but they were not more so than when the late Government with so much confidence brought in the Bill. It was true, that Bill had failed; but it was to be regretted that a full explanation of the causes of the failure had never been given; but he hoped there would be an opportunity afforded in the consideration of the present Bill to have those causes fully stated and discussed. He must say that nothing could be more unsatisfactory than the conduct of the late Government in respect to that Bill.

LORD SEYMOUR said, he should be quite prepared when the subject came under discussion to defend the conduct of the late Government, so far as it related to the department with which he had been connected, in regard to the measure to which his noble Friend had alluded. That measure had failed without doubt, but it was because the Government were misled by the Board of Health. It was in consequence of reliance on their assurances that they could raise the money for carrying out the measure, when they had not the means of doing so. He hoped the

House would allow the Bill to be brought | he had himself intended to ask the House in, that it might be fairly considered. to adopt. Having framed the Bill on the Bill ordered to be brought in by Lord recommendation of the Commissioners, he John Manners and Mr. Secretary Walpole.

the Sovereign has given an earnest that he intends to continue in that constitutional course which was commenced not long ago in that country, and that undeterred by any unwise attempts to propagate the doctrines of constitutionalism in those countries which are neither ripe nor ready to accept them, he is prepared at all events to uphold them within his own dominions, and to give an example to other nations that there is one country at least, besides England, in Europe which can prosper under a constitutional government.

be overstepping the proper limits, if he | But I am in hopes, from the news which asked for some information on the sub- we have just heard upon the subject, that ject. It was stated that the Marquess d'Azeglio had tendered his resignation to the King, and that he had since been commissioned by the King to re-form a Government. During the last few years that the Marquess d'Azeglio, who had acquired distinction as a soldier and as a political writer, had been at the head of a constitutional Government in Sardinia, the people of this country had observed with great satisfaction the progress which had been made, in the good order and material prosperity of that country. He thought that great advances had been made in a due appreciation of the advantages of religious toleration and commercial and civil liberty, as opposed to anything like the revolutionary licence which had taken place in other countries. He, therefore, hoped that, as all classes in this country took so great an interest in the prosperity of Sardinia, the noble Earl opposite would pardon his asking what was the nature of the latest information which he had received on the change of Government in that country?

The Earl of MALMESBURY: My Lords, the intelligence which my noble Friend has received with respect to the resignation of the Marquess d'Azeglio is perfectly correct; but I am sure your Lordships on both sides of the House will be glad to know that, on the 17th instant -a period subsequent to his resignationhe was sent for by his King, who asked him to resume the seals of office. His Majesty gave him a carte blanche to choose what Ministers he pleased to assist him; and, I believe, from a despatch that I have seen, that he has accepted the trust offered to him. I cannot sit down, my Lords, without expressing, on the part of Her Majesty's Government, the great pleasure which this news has given us; because it is impossible on our part to refuse to the Marquess d'Azeglio that just meed of praise he so well deserves, for having conducted through three years of great difficulty and great danger, both within and without, the Government of that country on constitutional principles, which had been previously of great disrepute in that country, in a manner which had resulted in great prosperity. Her Majesty's Government should be sorry, indeed, to see so fair a promise marred by any events, whether those events came from without Sardinia, or from within its own territories.

The MARQUESS of LANSDOWNE : My Lords, I have heard with the greatest satisfaction the statement of the noble Earl, although I am one of those who disapprove of any attempt in this House to pronounce directly or incidentally any opinion upon the conduct of foreign Governments in their internal affairs. Although I think that the utmost caution should be exercised with respect to this subject, I have nevertheless listened with the greatest pleasure to the statement of the noble Earl in reference to this illustrious person; but having had the advantage of longer opportunities than the noble Earl opposite, or than even my noble Friend near me (Earl Granville), of becoming cognisant of the disposition with which he has conducted the affairs of that country, and its relations with foreign countries, I wish to bear my testimony to the use which he has made of the great power which has been placed in his hands. Years have elapsed since we have seen an instance so strong as this statement has afforded of the efficacy of great judgment and great temper in restoring the strength of an apparently exhausted country, and bringing it back to that position in which it is entitled to command the affection of its own inhabitants, and the respect of Europe. It is an example to all countries of the effects produced by a happy combination of firmness and conciliation; it shows that by such means the interests of those whose interests a statesman is bound to attend to first have been promoted; and, secondly, that they have contributed to the preservation of the peace of Europe. I firmly believe that it is owing, in great measure, to the Marquess d'Azeglio's conduct that that peace has been so successfully maintained. My Lords, I thought it my duty to say this, having for some years observed the conduct of that illustrious individual; and

I cordially concur both in what has fallen | public for his inventions. If I had been from my noble Friend, and the satisfac-in my place on the day on which my noble tory answer given by the noble Earl op- Friend made his Motion, I should have posite.

WARNER INVENTIONS. The DUKE of WELLINGTON rose, in pursuance of notice, to move

"That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, praying that Her Majesty will be pleased to give directions that there be laid before this House Copies or Extract of any Report made to the Master General of the Ordnance on the subject of the inventions of Mr. Warner."

I am well aware, my

urged not only that this was not exactly a subject which the House of Lords ought to take under consideration, but also that your Lordships ought to have before you the proceedings on this subject which have already been taken under the direction of the Board of Ordnance; and it was my knowledge of those proceedings that induced me to give early notice of my intention to move that address to Her Majesty of which I have already given you His Grace proceeded to say: I have to the substance. apologise to your Lordships and to my Lords, that Mr. Warner has undoubtedly noble Friend and relation opposite (Earl objected to the competence of the officers Talbot), that I was absent from the appointed by the Master General of the House on the 14th instant, when he Ordnance to make these inquiries, and made his Motion that a Select Com- particularly to the competence of my galmittee be appointed to inquire into the lant Friend, Sir Howard Douglas. InWarner inventions, and the several re- deed, I believe that my noble Friend and ports connected therewith. By accident relation mentioned the objection of Mr. there was no House on the preceding Warner to my gallant Friend when he Thursday, and I therefore was not aware made his Motion. Now, I beg leave to of the Motion of my noble Friend until read to your Lordships a few words from the day after he made it, and on that a letter which Mr. Warner wrote to the day, unfortunately, I could not attend. Master General of the Ordnance, when he Had I been on that day in the House, my first heard that my gallant Friend was apLords, I should have represented to your pointed a Member of the Commission. He Lordships that the subject into which my says, "From what I have heard of Sir H. noble Friend desired that a Select Com- Douglas, I am highly gratified by the mittee of your Lordships should be appoint- choice which the Government has made of ed to inquire, had been already under the this distinguished officer." My Lords, anconsideration of the Crown in the office of other officer appointed to act on that Comthe Master General of the Ordnance, in mission, was Sir Edward Owen, an officer consequence, I believe, of an address from who had been oftentimes actively and sucthe House of Commons-at all events, I am cessfully employed on the public service. certain, at the particular desire of the late That officer could not, however, act in that Principal Minister of the Crown, Lord Mel- Commission, owing to some accidental serbourne-and, to my certain knowledge, vices; but Sir Byam Martin did sit upon under the Government of my late lament-it, an officer well known to many of your ed Friend, Sir Robert Peel, and also of Lordships, and than whom there was not a Lord John Russell. Under these circum- naval officer in the country more distinstances, my Lords, I confess it appeared guished for his services, and more capable to me that the subject of these inventions, of coming to a just decision on this subhaving been submitted to inquiry in the of-ject. I entreat you, my Lords, before you fice of the Master General of the Ordnance, and that, too, being a subject of an entirely scientific nature, it was not exactly a fit subject for inquiry in your Lordships' House; more particularly as that inquiry, if it should terminate successfully to the views of the projector, must lead to the expenditure of very large sums of money. My Lords, with this inquiry are connected a great many money speculations on the part of persons who have advanced large sums to this gentleman in the hope that he may receive a large reward from the

enter on this subject at all, and before you name this Committee, to see the reports made on it by the scientific officers of the Army and the Navy appointed by the Ordnance to consider whether it was expedient that these inventions, or alleged inventions, should be adopted for the service of Her Majesty.

The EARL of DERBY: My Lords, I am somewhat in the same position with the noble and gallant Duke who has made this Motion; for I also was absent from your Lordships' House upon the day that

the Motion was made for referring to a Se- | very important discoveries, one of which is lect Committee the inventions, or presumed known as the long range, and the other is inventions, of Captain Warner. And if I the invention of an explosive substance, by had conceived that the case was as the which he professes to be enabled to pronoble and gallant Duke appears to suppose duce very great effects. Now, my Lords, it to be, I should have come to the same I do not pretend to express an opinion of conclusion to which he has arrived, namely, the merits of either one or the other of that it is not expedient that your Lord- these inventions. One of them-I mean ships should enter upon a discussion of the that which is called the long range-has merits of these inventions. My Lords, if certainly had a fuller trial than the other, it had been that this Committee were moved and has certainly been more unequivocally for as an appeal against the decision of condemned by the parties who were emvery competent officers appointed by the ployed to examine and report upon it. At highest authority to examine into and to the same time, there certainly were cirreport upon the evidence laid before them, cumstances which Captain Warner alleges then I should have felt as strongly as the with regard to that trial, by which he was noble Duke can do, that nothing could be placed under difficulties and disadvantages more inconvenient than-without meaning that he could not control; but Captain any disrespect to your Lordships-to ap- Warner does not ask for another trial of a peal from a more competent to a less com- similar description of his new projectile. petent authority, for the purpose of inves- With regard to the other invention, there tigating the same facts which have been can be no doubt whatever that Captain referred and inquired into already on this Warner is possessed of the secret of a subject. And, my Lords, if this were a highly explosive power, which did produce question upon an appeal for the purpose of very extraordinary effects upon the vessel obtaining a Parliamentary contradiction of to which it was applied. Now, the questhe opinion expressed by the gallant offi- tion as to how it was applied is totally secers who have been examined as to these parate from that of the existence of such inventions, I should have objected to such an explosive power. How far it is capable an inquiry. But I apprehend that the of being applied to naval and military openoble and gallant Duke is somewhat mis- rations-how far it may be used for purinformed with regard to the intentions with poses of aggression or of defence-is a which this Committee was asked for, and question wholly separate from the exploI am certain he is somewhat misinformed sive power or substance itself, whatever it with regard to the intentions with which it may be, which Captain Warner has inwas granted by your Lordships, on the re- vented. And there can be no doubt of commendation of my noble Friend (the this, because it was reported upon by all Earl of Malmesbury). My Lords, I be- the officers to whom the invention was relieve that all the papers which are the sub- ferred, that the destruction of a vessel ject of the address moved for by the noble which came in contact with this explosive and gallant Duke, have been already sub- substance, was more complete and more mitted to Parliament. There can, at all sudden than could have been produced by events, be no inconvenience in their pro- any explosive substance ordinarily made duction, if my noble and gallant Friend use of in warfare. But on all previous ocshould think it is expedient to have them casions, Captain Warner desired this: that reprinted in the same form for presenta- an investigation should be made into the tion to this House, or to the Committee if success of his operations, and that upon it should be appointed. the report of the success of these operations, a large sum of money should be laid down, on the part of the public, without further explanation of the secret. Now, my Lords, this, I know, was the proposition which was made to the late Sir Robert Peel-and this proposition was rejected— and, as I think, most properly, by Her Majesty's then Government. Captain Warner now comes before your Lordships with a very different proposition. He has hitherto refused, except a large sum of money were previously paid down, to com

The DUKE of WELLINGTON here made an observation which was not heard.

The EARL of DERBY: I am quite aware of the terms of the noble and gallant Duke's Motion; but, my Lords, I take the liberty to say that the noble and gallant Duke is still under a misapprehension, as I stated, both with regard to the subject of that inquiry, and the terms upon which that inquiry was asked for, and the House granted it. The fact is this, that Captain Warner alleges that he has invented two